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Halloween fear's BBC Oxford
Halloween fear's BBC Oxford

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Halloween Phobia's BBC Oxford

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Christopher Paul Jones interviewed on the BBC Oxford about Halloween Phobia's

Of course TAT coming up after twelvemidday, but in the meantime, May I remind you it's Halloween aholl wouldbe Halloween without that laugh now day when we celebrate the creepyand become fascinated by the frightening, but it's not all fun andGames now. For some people, Halloween can be a time when they are forced tocome face to face with their fears and their phobias, everything from spidersto fake blood, to fears of people in masks. So what do you do if you sufferfrom Samhame a phobia? That's Ophobia of all things Halloween. Hopefully Iwill have some answers. A you actually call Christopher Paul Jones. That's whoyou call the break through expert the Samer Fane Mat Sam, no Sam Hanophobia,buster, that's whyt! I'M GOING TO CALL YOU CHRISTOPHER! That's a great namenomthing like that. Put that my website yeah, absolutely whe wants to be aghostbuster when you can be a Sam...

Hanophobia, but exactly yeah. So so Imean this is just a fear of Halloween and everything that goes with Halloween.I guess Yes, absolutely I mean there's so many scary elements that make up Halloweenthat can trigger people's phobias and I guess that's kind of the point ofHalloween. Really it's to scare people, but when you have a phobia it can, itcan be terrifying. You know I mean. Does this start because you perhaps hada phobia that you want to to overcome or af you absolutel fine with witheverything on Halloween me. Actually, no, I did have phobias,that's how I got into phobia work, but with Halloween. I loved it mainly because my mom hated it and Ithink I just rebelled so I yeah, so I loved Halloween.Actually, it's the one tie. One thing I didn't really have any fears of withthe exception of snakes. Actually I didn't really like snakes as a child.So I still don't I still a snake phobia sie. I guess. Yes, I have theOPIDIOPHOBIA. I think that's what Feros...

...snakes is a Fiyes, a Phidiophobia, verygood, yes yeah! It's amazing how how many people like to use the Latin whenthey have a phobia yeah. So when the key with any of thesephobis is really is, something's happened in your childhood. For themost part, the exception of loud noises like thear of thunder and lightning something's happened in your childhood.You've had a trigger and it's created a fear, so that's being made to be jumpedby a mask or watching your parents jump on Yar chair when they sew a spider,and in that moment your brain goes. Oh, I should be afraid of that, and thenthat carries with you into later life and you're, not even necessarilyconsciously aware of what started it. But when you see those plastic spidersat Halloween or even a representation, sometimes like the cobwebsite can setsomeone off. It's I've got LESSAF couboys around my house, so I'm wellused to those clearly, no Fawell, it's the one. It's the one time of year youcan, you can pretend it's deliberate, really yeah...

...a friend of mine, actually, se she wentto her mother's house and near Bambry, and she said mother, look at all thecobwebs look at all the cobwebs all over the house and her mother simplysaid to her. Don't worry, Darling, I'm spraying them for Halloween, which was a great retort. I fantastic,but I mean there are many many people that she's quite common fear of SpanIsan Aracnaphobia, yes, Aragnophobia, sort of twenty percent of men, apractic Tointo, some studies and fifty percent of women have a fear of fligt fear of spiders.So yeah, it's a very common one actually, and it seems that it doesn'treal. It's not logical. Like most phobias, there re irrational fearsbecause AE's many people have it in England, where there aren't really anyharmful spiders as they do in Australia or places where there are. You knowAfrica where there are actually dangerous spiders. So it's nothingnecessarily to do with the relative...

...effect of harm. It's more to do withthe Association in the brain that just links danger to it. You know and that's our survivalresponse. It's a useful thing to have, except for when it becomes overlyprogram. So you're running a mile when you see a tiny money, spider or you seea plastic spider or a Cubweb, or you know her- that ye cc a toy in a shop.You know you said that Tha often these phobias are they go back to somethingthat happed in our childid. You said Thatas, yes, that you like me, have aphobiof snakes, what Whit happene in your childhood. I think with that one it was. I did,grow out of that one. Actually, I didn't need to do any work on that, butit was watching a movie, I believe, watching a movie as a childhood when,when I worked on myself- and that was enough as a six year old or sevenyearold- to see us snake and go oh and link fear to it and yeah so that that'swhat happened with me, some people, it's also the look of them. You knowspiders and snakes. It's the movement...

...that can just because they're so alienin the way they move so unnatural that it can create fear- and that's that's also true, with a lotof phobies. If something doesn't look quite right when you're young and youdon't have the understanding to be able to rationalize it, it can create aphobia rat that s to avoid. I think you're right it was. It was just sortof the texture of a snake and the sort of seinthery. You know because youexpectatually, because I don't even like worms, I wouldn't pick up a worm.You know I wouldn't pick up t what a burk constrictor or a worm okay. So how?How afraid are you? Is it a fear or is it a phobia because there is adifference and ti mix er to by the way? Well, 've never actually thought of thatbefore, but but actually I thought this is ridiculous, but you know I have tosomehow overcome this because I'm also you know, there's a bit of me, that'squite fascinated by snakes as well and and a few months ago I actually toucheda python Ol well done so and and and that sort of helped a little bitbecause then I realized that actually they're very dry they're, not likeslippery and slimy, like a worm, in...

...fact Ando very good. So did that that reduceyour phobia did that help wel? I still wouln't want to want to be in a roomwith a python or Burg. Okay, no, not not really, but I sit's fish as well. Ihave a real phobira fish. I won't go into the sea if I know that they'refishing there, okay, which whay presents Ayo problems- I mean I don'tknow if I want to. I want to get into intervention here, but you know if youwant to work on it, I can exploit, but that's an interesting thing. So it's afair it's! So that's a great example of sort of associative fear. So it's notnecessarily the thing itself. It's the fear of the sliminess, so a worms fish,so something's going to happen in your childhood, maybe being made to eat foodthat you didn't like where you create repursion about the sliminess of it. Sothere's all sorts of different things that can trigger that phobia. So it'dbe interesting to track you back to the first event. If I know what that was it,it can get in the way of a good holiday, sometimes because I have to go and Stakout. You know. If I'm visiting a new beach, I have to go to stake it out andlook for the fish. Okay, do you have it?...

You have a memory of when that started,IAM generally not going to go to Devension, but I'm just curious. Youknow when you first dislike the feeling of slimy things, why? I think I thinkit was actually when it reverts bat. This is the ony thing I can sort ofsort of associate ID with, but I think it reverts back to a holiday in Greecewhen I was fourteen with my parents- and I remember my mother swimming out,because I was I had a snork out of mask and snor comb and I and my mother wasswimming out and there was quite a shelf actually.So you know it's very, very deep, vesto very early on in short of the shoreline yeah- and I remember looking under the water and seeing this great bigfish swim onto my mother's Tommy and just thinking uh, I don't know- maybeit's I perhaps something to do with it, I'm not really sure. But at that pointI just didn't like the water, I wouldn't go in without flippers, okay,okay, so one of the things t a I'd, get you to do. If you were working with me,which Wure not is I'd? Get you to...

...replay that movie in your head, butthis time play with some Benny Hill music through and see. If that changes, I'm sure that would help. Oh, yes, I'msure I'Lli'll try that later, but eyeahhow common is mascophobia becauseyou know this is if we're talking about Halloween, of course, which we are willget back on topic. Yeah, not talk about my phobias, but mask mask o phobia.Fear of mast lot of people wearing masks. I would imagine tonight: Yes, Imean Maskophobia, it's not the most common of all of them, but I think if it's going to be createdanytime, it's going to be Halloween, because it's not just you know othertimes, You'r wearing a nice mask for a ball or something these are designed tobe horrific. They have blood on them or you look like a devil or you have scaryeyes. So, of course, if a child was made to jump by them, as you know,that's going to affect them and cause the fear as say later, life so yeah itis. It is a bad time for anyone with a Maskophobia yeah it, and it's also. The other thingabout masks is if as a child or it...

...doesn't have to be a child, but itnormally is because the face doesn't move even if it's a fixed smile again as a young child, you et looksaut, the ordinary and so something's, not right and, and the child goes ohavoid, and then it creates that fear in the subconscious mind. Basically, soif you worked with many people that have nictophobia fear of the dark, that's quite a common one. Yes, it's more more often associated wit,clostrophobia the idea of being trapped. So the idea of not being abow to getout not being able to see a way through, so that that is that is normally thosetoo often a link. Actually they often both go together and yeah. It's againit's primeval as well. You know if I you're sitting in your bed and you'R,seeing the street lights cast those shadow shadows on the wall and you'remaking faces out of them. You know again, you're Goingna go the dark isscary, so you need the night light again. A lot of people grow out of it,but if it's associated with being...

...trapped or a time you needed to escapeand you couldn't it's going to get hardwide in the brain as well, actuallyI mean as much as you know, we joke a little and jest about some of thesephobius. You know some of them are really really serious and really reallylimit people's lives in many absolutely and thess. This is why I asked. Is itif fear o phobia, because when people say I have a phobia of something? Oh, Ijust need a drink and I get through it or avoid it. That's actually a fearphobia can stop someone leaving their house on the offchance they might bumpinto a spider. You know or might see someone in a mask, or you know it canyeah. It absolutely hold someone back completely from living. Their life anditit can be a serious thing. I didn't realize that there was a phobia forpeople relating to the Fiver Day. Actuallyfear of Vegetables Phobi, yes, that that isn't a common one, I have to say,but again yeah. If you were force fed as a child, that's normally where itcomes from or you were. You know you were militantly made, toreat yourvegetables again, your brain links, pain to it or discomfort, or feelingsick and again you're going to avoid it...

...in later life. So, yes and again that can obviouslyhave impacts on your health as well. If you have that one you're going to be, you know it's notgoing to be great. If you're not eating your vegetables, if you're not eatingyour Fivit days, you Sey, I would iwould imagine that Kinnemortophobiadoesn't really come into play very often, which is a fear of zombiesbecause they don't exist. Well, the thing about fear. Most thingsdon't exist, it's the fear of the potential of it so yeah I mean I had enough studentconversations about preparing for the Zombi apocalypse when I was younger,I'm sure, but yes were welling away the hoursyeah. But again, if someone sint a zombi movie as a child than anyrepresentation of it, you know any mask or costume Cancan set it off can setoff that fear. Well, the good thing is that fears and phobias, of course theycan be overcome with the help of you, Christopher Paul Jones, the breakthrough buster fantasic. Well, thank you very muchindeed for time small you're very well...

...being great to speak. To you are you?How are you going to B senlnt you're going to be celebrating Halloweentoniht H, Ou, O Goinno beoing a you said: You love it yeah. I do, and Imean I had my party on Saturday so today I haven't actually got any plans.I might just I don't know, sit in the house andscare off the local children. Men Very mean: What did you dress up as onSaturday, then I went as a dead Ne thonined s actor. Basically,that was the theme. So, yes, I held my face and wore like an old old suit andhat basically, so a like you've been dug up delightful, yeah lovely. Thankyou very much. TAT, Christopher portern. SAN ILNING is a swarny. Thank you. I.

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